I'm prolly gonna regret posting this

from the comments on my favorite thread on my favorite science blog

"Posted by: Lynna | November 10, 2009 4:40 PM

Jadehawk, I don't like traveling/hiking in the heat myself. When my brother and I travel in southern Utah we explore the lower elevations very early in the spring (late March/early April) or very late in the fall. As the spring-summer season progresses, we move up in elevation, following the snow-melt and thus staying in cooler temperatures.

Change of subject: What is coming down the pike from the mormons when it comes to gays? http://8themormonproposition.blogspot.com
On November 10, 2009 several highly placed people featured in the upcoming documentary film 8: THE MORMON PROPOSITION were contacted by well-placed people inside the Mormon Church in anticipation of an "historic statement against discrimination" to be made by the Mormon Church.
They were told, "Watch what we are about to do. You will be pleased."...
Speculation is that this may have something to do with Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign. Mormons looking to do some positive PR?"

"Posted by: Lynna | November 11, 2009 12:25 PM

Follow up to my post @860: The underwhelming announcement from the LDS Church in support of gay rights was aired on ksl TV in Salt Lake City last night. You can view the video at http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8624086
Here's an excerpt from the story:

At Tuesday night's Salt Lake City Council meeting, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints issued a statement showing its support of the city's proposed non-discrimination regulations.
The statement by the LDS Church reflects a position stated by the high-ranking church authorities more than a year ago.
"We are not anti-gay, we are pro-marriage between a man and a woman. And there's a huge difference between those two points," Elder L. Whitney Clayton, of the Presidency of the Quorum of the Seventy told KSL News.


Federal laws do not allow discrimination in housing -- now the Salt Lake City Council and the LDS Church (which are really one and the same for the most part) have decided to claim that they are leaders when it comes to supporting gays because they reluctantly agree with federal law. PR Masters. "

And Lynna added this bit in response to me poking -
"I would change one thing if I could. I wrote that the Salt Lake City Council and the LDS Church bigwigs were almost one and the same. I don't think that's accurate. The Salt Lake City Council is more diverse now that it has been in the past. This makes it more likely that the Council would have passed the anti-discrimination ordinances without the LDS Church support. The church leaders probably got on the bandwagon after seeing that the ordinances would pass with or without them."

iono nothin' bout it, but what it says there.